Hello everyone and welcome back to Middleground.

I'm Caroline.

And I'm Joe.

And if you can hear baby hiccups, that's because they're actually baby hiccups and they're

adorable.

So sorry.

Yeah, I fed Rory right before we got started.

And now he's making cute little baby noises so cute

it's so crazy gardener used to be like that and on the podcast like people could hear a gardener

yeah no there's another human it's so great it happens so fast i think that's the thing that's been

blowing my mind so much in this season is when I became a new mom,

I felt young, but anybody that had two kids, I'm like, oh, no, they're like, has, not

husband, but, you know, like, they know what's, they know the drill. Oh, yeah, yeah. But it happens

so fast. I really go back to the idea of, you really should never ask advice from somebody

that is currently parenting. You should ask parents of grown children. So friends that you really should never ask advice from somebody that is currently parenting.

You should ask parents of grown children.

So friends that you really think turned out well that have a lot of love and respect for their

parents, talk to their parents.

Yeah.

Stop talking to your other friends that have kids.

Even if the kids are five years older, they can give you advice on products that are current

and things like that.

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