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Lost Debate

Our Constitutional Crisis

Lost Debate

The Branch

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What happens when the president of the United States defies a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling? Ravi is joined by The Atlantic’s Isaac Stanley-Becker to take a closer look at the case of Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man stripped of due process and deported to a Salvadoran prison, and the chilling implications the case may have for immigrants and American citizens more broadly. They then turn to the Trump administration’s escalating campaign of retribution, targeting law firms, universities, and student protestors, and how it’s reshaping who can speak, work, and fight back in America. Finally Ravi and Isaac discuss whether the constitutional crisis many warned about has already arrived. The Branch is nominated for a Webby! Vote for us: Killing Justice (Best Partnership/Collaboration): https://bit.ly/killingjustice Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 321-200-0570 Learn more about Ravi's novel: GARBAGE TOWN --- Follow Ravi at @ravimgupta Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Notes from this episode are available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Lost Debate is available on the following platforms:  • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LostDebate • Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vTERJNTc1ODE3Mzk3Nw  • iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-lost-debate-88330217/ • Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/752ca262-2801-466d-9654-2024de72bd1f/the-lost-debate

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Lost Debata Show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And today I talk with the

0:05.5

Atlantics, Isaac Stanley Becker. And we're going to talk about Trump defying a Supreme Court order to

0:11.9

return a man from an El Salvadorian prison. We're going to talk about Trump's intimidation of law

0:18.6

firms and universities and institutions generally.

0:22.2

And so stick around for that.

0:24.1

But before we get there, one favor.

0:26.2

We are a nonprofit institution.

0:28.5

We don't run ads.

0:29.8

We don't bother you with any of that stuff.

0:31.1

A lot of other people do.

0:32.1

And we just provide a service for you.

0:33.8

And we try to bring you nuanced and objective news.

0:36.0

And we rarely ask you for any favors,

0:37.9

but this time I would love for you to do us a favor and pause this podcast, not yet, but when I'm

0:44.1

finished with this point, and go into our show description. And the first link that we provide is

0:49.6

going to be to a poll to vote by the end of this week for the Webby Awards for Best Collaboration. And I want you to vote for Killing Justice, which is a podcast that I worked on and the team at the branch worked on along with Cricket Media, investigating an alleged political murder in India. You'd listen to that. A lot of you have over at the Killing Justice feed. But just go in there. It should take you 30 seconds to go in there. You only need to vote for one thing. You could use any of like your Gmail or whatever to sign in. And you could just vote for us. And right now we're third in the people's choice voting. And it's like a couple percentage points separating us from others. So if everybody who's listening to this

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votes, we will absolutely go from third to first. And even if just half of you do, that will

1:32.0

probably happen. So pause this. Go to that link. You could do it even on your phone. Vote for

1:37.1

us and then unpause it. And we'll be back here for the pod. All right, and we're back. I'm going

1:43.6

to talk to Isaac Stanley Becker. and in this conversation, I refer to this meeting

1:49.6

between Trump and the El Salvadorian president in the Oval Office yesterday.

1:55.4

There is one piece of audio that I want to play ahead of this conversation with Isaac, because I want you to keep

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