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🗓️ 18 November 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Activist Catie Laffoon joins the show to talk about the largest ICE detention center in California, which has garnered almost no media attention, and the example of California City becoming owned by ICE. Catie and Gabe traveled two hours outside LA to what they believe to be a future "slave city" to find scandals, horrors, insanity, and corruption. They discuss their theories and research on how cities will be taken over by the federal government and military.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to A Thousand Natural Shocks, A Bad With Money podcast. |
| 0:03.7 | I'm your host Gabe Dunn. |
| 0:05.4 | And we have Katie LaFoon on the podcast today. |
| 0:08.5 | We talk about California a lot, but you can transpose everything that we're talking about into your state, |
| 0:15.1 | into perhaps a city very close to you, if not your city. |
| 0:18.8 | So we're going to get into basically the creation of what we believe are going to be slave cities |
| 0:25.4 | and what you can do to help prevent money going to places that will facilitate that. |
| 0:34.5 | A place like California City can be kind of hard to follow or explain. We spend the first |
| 0:40.2 | part of the episode setting the scene, including the history of California City, its current |
| 0:44.5 | corruption, and then we delve into what is actually happening in the state's largest detention |
| 0:49.4 | center and how water is being used to control it. The conversation delves into the harsh realities |
| 0:53.7 | of detention centers in California and around the U.S., |
| 0:57.0 | highlighting accounts and perspectives that reveal the cruelty and torture experienced by individuals within these facilities. |
| 1:03.0 | Ones that I would argue are concentration camps. |
| 1:06.0 | No, I wouldn't argue it. I believe they're concentration camps. |
| 1:09.0 | The discussion emphasizes the need for awareness and advocacy regarding the treatment of detainees. For an example, look up Masuma Khan, look up anyone who's being held in chrome, look up people who have died in detention. Yes, people are dying. These centers are being framed as detention facilities, but they are prisons. They are |
| 1:29.1 | long-term prisons. People need to know about these human rights violations, and community |
| 1:34.6 | involvement is how we're going to fix this. So you need to open your eyes, see what's happening, |
| 1:39.9 | tell other people what's happening, and then hear Katie and I about how to get involved. |
| 1:44.4 | It's a rough one, guys. |
| 1:46.0 | And there are some parts that might come across bleak, but really this is about educating you |
| 1:50.4 | and letting you know what's happening so that you can be on the same page as us and realize how far along we are. |
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