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Welcome to Stay Tuned. I'm Priperara. We don't talk any longer as if we're all in it together.

And when a crisis like this comes, it shows you this state of those systems. It shows you

how the organism is doing and it turns out, and we should have known this, we did know

this, that we were very unhealthy. That's George Packer. He's a staff writer at the Atlantic

and author of multiple books. The subjects he covers are many and varied. They include foreign

policy, the history of American culture, and contemporary politics. Last year, he won

the Hitchens Prize. It's awarded to quote an author or a journalist who, in the spirit

of the Lake Christopher Hitchens, demonstrates a commitment to free expression and to the pursuit

of truth without regard to personal or professional consequence. Packer joins me this week to talk

about his most recent piece, Sensationally titled, We Are Living in a Failed State. It

explores what the coronavirus pandemic has revealed about the challenges America has

long faced, politically, economically, and culturally. We also discuss the President's

attacks on civil servants, community in times of crisis, and how to be a brave writer.

That's coming up. Stay tuned.

This question comes in a tweet from listener Jeff Moore at JBM zero. Hey, Pete Barara,

just wondering, has a sitting attorney general ever been disbarred while in office? And if

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