I think we need to predetermine how we're going to respond to transitions so don't we have

to react to it.

Like and so we had transition with kids, we had transition with marriage, we had transition

with moving, we had transition from churches, we had transition, so if we predetermine,

we're going to communicate doing transition, we're going to have regular check-ins doing

transition, right?

We're going to pray doing transition, we're going to have sex, I mean we're going to

do it, you know, doing transitions, right?

Because if we want to stay connected, and if we predetermine what we're going to do

through transition, we can manage transition and transition won't manage us.

What a day we've had here at the Exo conference and we are back with some more guests that

we're so excited about.

We've got Ryan and Priscilla O'Vay, a Ryan's part of Maverick City which is like just the

biggest Christian music movement in the world.

Great.

Many Maverick City.

Yes.

I mean they're rocking.

And they're newlyweds.

Yes.

They are international, not only internationally known, but you guys are international, just

period.

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