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Very excited for a first time guest here today.

I don't know who gets to pick,

who counts as the dean of various historical schools, but in my corner of the world,

if you said who's the dean of Lincoln Scholars, everybody I hang out with would say Alan Gelso and he is a prolific by all means just

go to Alan Gelso.com we'll put in the show notes you'll see all the different

books he's written.

He's a prolific historian and scholar

and book reviewer.

I mean, he, I remember not long ago seeing a review I want to say it was like 21 books on

Lincoln it was some ungodly number of books on Lincoln which I could not imagine

sitting down and having the time to write and then organize in my head,

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