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Life and Books and Everything

Our Ancient Faith: Lincoln, Democracy, and the American Experiment with Allen Guelzo

Life and Books and Everything

Clearly Reformed

Books, Religion & Spirituality, Arts, Christianity

4.6635 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2024

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

He must be one of Kevin's favorite historians and favorite guests, because Dr. Guelzo is back for an unprecedented third visit to the LBE book-cave. Although Dr. Guelzo's new book is about Abraham Lincoln, Kevin and Allen talk about much more than just Lincoln—everything from John Locke to Christian Nationalism to progressivism to a healthy does of Reformed anthropology. And no, Dr. Guelzo did not watch the Super Bowl.

Chapters:

0:00 Intro

6:40 The Lincoln Book

14:25 Democracy Consensus

29:28 Christianity & Government

46:45 Sponsor Break | Crossway & Desiring God

48:00 Has Virtue Disappeared?

59:51 Was Abraham Lincoln a Racist?

01:02:42 Lincoln: The Founder of Big Government?

01:09:16 What, then, is the Hope?

1:16:37 Until Next Time

Transcript

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0:00.0

Greetings and salutations. Welcome to Life and Books and Everything. I'm Kevin DeYoung,

0:12.9

senior pastor at Christ's Covenant Church in Matthews, North Carolina. And today I am joined by

0:19.1

the first ever three-time repeat guest.

0:24.2

I think when you get to five, then you get a golden jacket or some other paraphernalia.

0:30.6

But Dr. Alan Gelzo, who is the Thomas W. Smith Distinguished Research Scholar in the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University.

0:43.1

That's a long distinguished title, and he's taught at many other places, and has written many books, and I am having him on today.

0:51.2

As you can tell, he is one of my favorite authors and historians and an all-around

0:57.2

delightful guy to talk to. So our ancient faith, Lincoln, Democracy and the American Experiment,

1:05.4

which is either just out or just about to come out by Alfred Knopf?

1:12.6

I always wondered how you say the name.

1:13.9

They insist that the K has to be pronounced, so it's Knaup.

1:19.2

Oh, really?

1:20.4

That's the first thing you're corrected about.

1:23.5

They don't even look at the text that you've written that they're supposed to be editing.

1:27.6

First thing is make sure it's Knav.

1:30.6

Knav.

1:32.3

Dr. Gelsho or Alan, if I may.

1:34.5

Thank you for being with us.

1:36.0

I just asked you before we hit record, so I'll ask you again.

1:40.2

We're recording this on Monday morning.

1:43.4

Did you watch any of the Super Bowl last night?

1:46.6

No.

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