16 women say Pastor Wayne Aram sexually abused them. Still, he remains the president of a major

Christian camp in western New York, but today, two of his victims speak out. Welcome to the Roy's

report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church.

I'm Julie Roy's.

Just last week, USA Today ran a cover story documenting the alleged abuse by Wayne Aram.

Aram is the president of the well-known Circle Sea Ranch near Buffalo, New York.

He's also a former youth pastor at the chapel, a multi-site megachurch in the Buffalo area.

These women say Aram systematically groomed them and then touched them inappropriately.

19 others told USA Today that they either witnessed or heard about Aram's actions.

Yet for decades, this alleged abuse continued, even though leadership at both the chapel and

Circle C Ranch were confronted about Aram's conduct at least 20 times in the past 24 years.

But in 2020, something changed. After hearing a report of abuse by a former staffer at the Circle C Ranch,

the chapel hired Ministry Safe to conduct an investigation.

That investigation found evidence of an ongoing pattern of manipulation and intimacy between

Aram and teenage girls. Yet despite this report and the women's testimonies, Wayne Aram remains

in his position at Circle C, and apparently he has the support of his

board. Aram has consistently denied all claims against him of inappropriate conduct, stating in an

email, I have never had any sexual interaction with anyone other than my wife. I have never touched

anyone with any inappropriate motive. My two guests today

say that's a lie. They say in the 1990s when they were in Aram's youth ministry, he groomed them

and manipulated them into subtle abuse, but that abuse has had a devastating impact on their lives

that they're continuing to process.

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