Ottoman Court Astrology

The Astrology Podcast

Chris Brennan

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

In episode 492 Professor A. Tunç Şen joins the podcast to discuss his book, Forgotten Experts: Astrologers, Science, and Authority in the Ottoman Empire, 1450-1600, which is on astrologers working in the Ottoman court in the 15th and 16th centuries. The conversation offers a detailed picture of the lives and social dynamics of astrologers who operated at the highest levels of power in the Ottoman court. A significant focus is the establishment of a formal unit for court astrologers, or munajjim, within the Ottoman bureaucracy, which paralleled other expert fields like physicians and architects. This unit, which could consist of one to six astrologers, was created in the 15th century and remarkably lasted until the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th century. The episode delves into the various duties performed by these court astrologers. A primary function was the practice of electional astrology, where they would determine auspicious moments for a wide range of state affairs, including military campaigns, the founding of mosques, and wedding ceremonies. The astrologers would also issue an annual almanac, interpret the birth charts of rulers, answer horary astrology questions, and sometimes give medical advice. The conversation also explores the personalities and internal dynamics within the court. Much attention is given to Sultan Bayezid II, a ruler with a deep personal interest in the astral sciences who was instrumental in the institutionalization of the court astrologers. The story of the astrologer Riyazi is also highlighted—a highly skilled but frustrated practitioner who was never appointed chief astrologer and expressed his professional frustrations in poetry. This illustrates the debates, disagreements, and competition for authority that existed among the astrologers themselves, as well as other practitioners of esoteric or occult sciences. The discussion challenges the narrative that astrology was in a state of decline after an earlier "golden age," demonstrating that it remained a vibrant and impactful field. Tunç's book was just released on May 20, and you can order it on Amazon or other online retailers now: Forgotten Experts: Astrologers, Science, and Authority in the Ottoman Empire, 1450–1600 This episode is available in both audio and video versions below. Watch the Video Version of This Episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvZiDOnFIf0 - Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode Listen to the audio version of this episode or download it as an MP3:

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0:00.0	Hey, my name is Chris Brennan and you're listening to the Astrology podcast.
0:03.6	Joining me today is Professor Tunch Shin, and we're going to be talking about his new book,
0:07.6	Forgotten Experts, Astrologers, Science and Authority in the Ottoman Empire, 1450 to 1600,
0:15.1	which focuses on especially astrologers in the Ottoman court in the 15th and 16th centuries.
0:22.6	So hey, Tune, thanks for joining me today. I appreciate it.
0:25.6	Thank you, Chris, for having me. It's my pleasure.
0:28.6	Yeah, I just finished. I've been reading your book slowly, but then I kind of timed it so that I would finish reading it last night.
0:35.6	And I absolutely loved this book.
0:37.8	It was incredibly fascinating and detailed and yet still accessible where you really gave
0:45.5	a really vivid picture of the lives and the interactions of these astrologers and the
0:51.5	sort of social dynamics, especially that were happening in the Ottoman
0:55.2	court at the highest levels of power in the 15th and 16th centuries.
1:00.6	So first of, I just want to thank you and congratulate you for publishing this.
1:06.3	Well, thank you so much. It's so great to hear these from you. Really appreciate that.
1:12.1	Yeah. So you are a professor of especially Ottoman history, and this is actually like a published
1:19.5	version of your PhD dissertation from 2016, right? That's correct. That's correct. But I had to
1:25.8	change its framework, although it relied upon the sources I used during my dissertation
1:33.7	research.
1:35.7	In terms of just streamlining it to make it more accessible?
1:41.7	That's just one aspect, yes.
1:43.4	I mean, I tried to make it more accessible to a more general readership, but also the framework
1:49.6	I used in this book, I e.
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