I'm Bob Garfield. In place of an on-the-media segment, this week we bring you an episode from our friends down the hall who make the podcast, Trump, Inc. Here's co-host, Elia Maritz.

The White House isn't big enough to hold the staff that make the executive office run. So across the way, through an underground tunnel, there's an office building where

a lot of the work happens, like preserving presidential records.

His thing was he didn't care what records was. He frequently tore up memos or things and just

threw them in the trash. This is Solomon Larte, a records management analyst under four U.S. presidents, Clinton,

Bush, Obama, and Trump.

So it took somebody from the White House staff to tell him, like, look, you can't do that,

because everything is a presidential record.

And I don't think he understood that in the beginning.

I don't know if he understands it now, but that's what it was.

The law says every piece of paper that passes the president's desk must be preserved.

Anything that comes in there from a lawsuit, like I say, from a kid writing a letter,

to a picture being sent out to somebody.

It's a presidential record.

Everything.

From administration to administration, the nature of Larte's job changed only a little bit,

until Trump.

That's when he began to receive manila folders containing fragments of paper about the size of your thumb, torn by the hands of the President of the United States.

It was like a do on a puzzle, an adult puzzle.

We would use a clear tape so it could be perfect as possible.

We had to line it up and send it to the archaise.

In Solomon Larte's experience, Trump didn't shred everything.

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