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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Other People’s Money: Ira Glass on Finding Your Voice

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Sports, Business, Society & Culture

4.49.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Michael Lewis did not rest long on his laurels after publishing Liar’s Poker. In the 1990s, he hit the presidential campaign trail, writing a series of magazine pieces. Some of his dispatches got adapted for audio by a then-new public radio show called “This American Life.” Michael speaks with the show’s creator, Ira Glass, about how they both found their voices as storytellers. Trigger warning: this episode contains vintage NPR sounds.


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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:13.0

Oh my God. You know what this is? I printed it out and sent it chapter by chapter to my parents.

0:20.0

And my mother saved it. And she put them in a three-ring binder.

0:24.0

Amazing.

0:26.0

And it says, like, says MNP, mom and pop, to follow what you've got. This is chapter seven.

0:31.0

And it's the whole book. And she just saved it as I sent it to them in a serialized fashion.

0:37.0

And I think my father function is a kind of editor for me.

0:41.0

That's so important to have that. I mean, whether it's as explicit as that or this implied audience,

0:46.0

someone that you feel okay.

0:49.0

Yep.

0:50.0

Like kind of being yourself with. You're not trying to impress them.

0:53.0

Right. I don't know. I think it's like an overlooked part of writing life, you know.

0:58.0

Who you're writing for?

1:00.0

That you want to say something to somebody is where it all starts, right?

1:04.0

Yeah.

1:08.0

I'm Michael Lewis. Welcome to other people's money, a Liars Poker Companion.

1:14.0

This is episode four and we're going to call it, well, let's call it spell bond,

1:18.0

which is one of the many titles that I considered for the book that became Liars Poker.

1:23.0

All right. We're rolling. Let's go.

1:28.0

We're going to need a lot of throat coat tea. All right.

1:32.0

Liars Poker, rising through the wreckage on Wall Street.

1:36.0

Do I say this?

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