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All right, guys, I am probably not the only person who has noticed that there is an

increasing interest in a return to religion, very specifically Christianity in the West.

Now, I want to believe that this is a religious revival. I pray for religious revival because I am myself, I believe in Christian.

But I also recognize that there are parts of the historical cycle that seem to be playing themselves out here.

Many of the people talking about returning to religion seem to put first the idea that the religion undergird something important that we've lost and not so much

their own personal faith in Jesus Christ or the resurrection. And that got me thinking about

Spangler's idea of the second religiousness and what a civilization looks like when it tries

to recapture that metaphysical animating spark that really ignited its spread, but ultimately

finds itself in this kind of end of the cycle.

Joining me to talk about this is, well, the only man who I really want to discuss Oswald

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