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Hi, everybody. Welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility. I'm Pete Bigelow, your host and reporter to the automotive news.

My guest on the podcast today is Jay Ingar, executive VP and chief technology Officer at Ashkosh.

We're talking about her work automating work vehicles like garbage haulers and airport baggage trolleys.

Definitely a distinct niche of the autonomous driving space.

The future is already here. It's just not equally distributed.

So, you know, there'll be a technology somewhere from automotive or some other place we can always bring it into our use cases. But we always start up with the

problem statement first. First, though, we have a look at this week's headlines. And for that,

I am joined by my colleague Molly Boygan. Molly, how are you today? I'm doing well, thanks,

Pete. How are you? Good. Trying to

catch up with all the news. Obviously, there's a lot. And I know that you have been writing about

16 states that are suing the federal government over EV charger funding. What's going on?

Yes. So on May 7th, 16 states, which is a tongue twister in case

you hadn't tried to say it a lot out loud, viled suit against the Trump administration.

So against Sean Duffy and FHWA and a couple of other defendants listed in the suit

for what they characterize as the withholding of Nevi funding.

So this has been not a long time coming because it's actually, you know, it's only started on

January 20th, but it feels like a long time coming. You know, the Trump administration first

released an executive order on Trump's first day in office, which called for, you know,

a restructuring of priorities and reshuffling of

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