On To the Point, we try to make sense of the policy debates and the political side shows on the campaign trail.

Ted Cruz wrapping the bacon around the semi-automatic weapon to cook it.

I understand that trade is not a sexy issue.

Nobody knows where the Republican Party is going to land.

I mean, it's kind of like a country road. No one knows where it will end.

In many ways, Marco Rubio is the Michael Jordan of American politics.

I'm Warren Alney. To the Point has you covered for the 2016 campaign. Find the To the Point

podcast on KCRW's iTunes page. From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters and this is the business.

I read the novel and I thought two things. I thought I desperately want to make this into a film

and I thought I will never have a chance to make this into a film.

Irish indie director Lenny Abramson didn't expect author Emma Donahue would choose him

to make a film based on her best-selling novel

Room. Today we revisit our interview with two Oscar nominees, Abramson and Donahue, who

wrote the book from the perspective of a five-year-old boy. Abramson tells us how he made his pitch to

Donahue and she explains why it worked. They also talk about the challenges of making a film

on a dark topic that may attract a wider audience now that it's a best picture nominee. But first on

an all new banter, we break down the Oscar nominations and a fumble for Disney CEO Robert

Iger. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany of the Hollywood Reporter. Hello, Matt.

Hello there. So, Oscar nominations. The list is out. I'm going to run through the best picture nominees and then we'll break it down a little bit. The big short bridge of spies,

Brooklyn, Mad Max Fury Road, the Martian, the Revenant, room, and spotlight. So the surprises,

I would say, in that category, a lot of people didn't see room coming. A lot of people thought

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