From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Autumn Durald Arkapaw has made history with sinners, becoming the first woman of color nominated for the Oscar for Best Cinematography.

She says that while more women are entering the field, breaking in remains a challenge.

When I went to AFI, there was 28 people in my class, 11 were women. And I didn't know them prior, so I show up, right? And I'm looking around, I'm like, oh, I'm not the only woman interested in this. And so it's being reflected around me all the time. But then I'm looking at the industry, and I'm not seeing that reflected in that. Durald Arcapaugh describes how sinners morphed from a project code named grilled cheese that would be shot on thrifty 16 millimeter into a full-blown IMAX meal.

And it was the studio's suggestion to go that route.

She also explains about the challenges cruise face with production leaving Los Angeles

and why as a department head a little yelling goes a long way when a shot is on the line.

But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter. Matt Valany. Hello, Matt. Hi there. So, in Newsy Week, I'll just run through the state of play with Warner's because it's become a law now that we have to talk about it every week for the rest of our lives. Warners has reopened the negotiation with Paramount. It doesn't sound to me like Warner's wants to now seriously consider a deal with

Paramount. I think they're doing this as a defensive move because there will be litigation

and they want to show that they played fair. So if you disagree, go ahead.

No, I think that's right. I mean, they are essentially saying the noise around this is loud

enough where they at least have to give them a shot to up their bid.

Don't know if they will.

They have seven days now to do so.

I also think on the Netflix side, Netflix is kind of getting sick of this.

I mean, this is what, the ninth, tenth time that Paramount has sweetened its deal.

And the board of Warner keeps going back to them saying, no, it's not good enough. We're sticking with Netflix. And the

interesting thing here is they set a shareholder vote for March 20th while also opening up this

negotiation for seven days, which is basically a put up or shut shut-up message. We're going to vote on this.

So you've got one last chance to make it worth our while or else we're going to move on.

Yeah. And then if they do put up the number, then Netflix also can put up its number if they

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