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The Daily

Osama bin Laden’s Successor

The Daily

The New York Times

News, Daily News

4.3107.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2019

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

In the years before his death, Osama bin Laden seemed to be grooming a successor to lead Al Qaeda: his own son. Here’s what we learned this week about those plans. Guest: Rukmini Callimachi, who covers terrorism for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: The care Osama bin Laden showed his son was not just fatherly, but appears to have been an attempt by the world’s most hunted terrorist to secure his legacy.The United States had a role in the operation that killed Hamza bin Laden, officials said. But other details, including where he died, are unknown.

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From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow. This is The Daily.

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Today, in his final years, Osama Bin Laden seemed to be grooming a hand-picked successor

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to run the most feared terror network in the world.

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His own son, Uukmini Kalamaki, on what we learned this week

0:29.0

about those plans.

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It's Wednesday, August 7th.

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Rukmini, what do we know about Homsa Bin Laden?

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Homsa Bin Laden was the son of the woman who became Osama Bin Laden's favorite wife.

0:48.0

She was a woman who was highly educated.

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She was a child psychologist who had graduate degrees

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and who, in many ways, became Osama Bin Laden's equal.

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But because they met when she was in her mid-30s

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and because she was frail of health, she had difficulty giving birth.

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She had multiple miscarriages, and Homsa Bin Laden is her only child.

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So this is the child of his favorite wife,

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and that positioned him to become Osama Bin Laden's favorite son.

1:17.0

The one way to think of Homsa is that he grows up alongside Al Qaeda.

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Al Qaeda has founded in 1988.

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We believe that Homsa Bin Laden was born a year later in 1989 in Saudi Arabia.

1:29.0

Soon after, he moves with his mother and father to the war theater in Afghanistan.

1:34.0

They are eventually kicked out of Afghanistan and seek refuge in Sudan.

1:39.0

And he spends the first seven years of his life in Sudan.

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