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I am really thrilled right now because I have as my guest for this hour, my dear friend, privileged to say so, Oz Guinness. As

welcome to the program. Well, thanks for having me back, Eric. A real pleasure for me.

Well, you have meant so much to me over the years, not just as a thinker and writer, but as a

friend. And I'm thrilled to know that you have a book out, a new

book just now called The Great Quest. I want to talk to you about it. The subtitle is

invitation to an examined life and a sure path to meaning. Many people don't know that you were

singularly instrumental in the creation of what we

call Socrates in the city. Socrates, of course, said the unexamined life is not worth living,

which is the very heart of this new book, the great quest that you've written. But many people

don't know that in 2000, which suddenly is 22 years ago,

it used to be way in the future, remember that? Suddenly it's 22 years ago. But you were the one

who encouraged me to do what we ended up doing with Socrates in the city. And the quote, of course, that I think I quote every time I do an introduction to Socrates and

city is the unexamined life is not worth living.

And so why don't we start there?

Because you have written about Victor Frankel and you write about him in this book.

But this has been an issue for you.

The question of meaning has been important to you for many, many decades. You've written

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