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What do you feel like you're constantly chasing?

I think less and less.

I think I was chasing acceptance my whole life.

But I have really worked on not needing to chase that any longer.

I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard, the game where cards control the conversation.

Each week, my guest answers questions about their life.

Questions pulled from a deck of cards.

They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one question back on me.

My guest this week is Orville Peck.

I had to lose my career for a moment while I went and got health and sober.

And it was just a very defining moment where I was like, man, like this is taking everything

I love away from my life.

Orville Peck is full of apparent contradictions.

As a kid growing up in South Africa, he went from dancing ballet to playing drums in a punk band.

He loves musical theater, but made a name for himself as a country singer.

A lot of his songs are about vulnerability, that he covers his face with a mask.

The contradictions are all part of the Peck mystery.

He keeps a lot of his life under wraps, even his real name, which is not Orvo Peck.

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