Orly Lobel on How AI Can Make the World a Better, More Equal Place
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 17 March 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Artificial Intelligence is advancing at what seems like an exponential rate, with every month—sometimes every week—bringing news of a new, game-changing discovery. But just as the progress in AI is accelerating, so is the pessimism about it, with many scholars, commentators, and technologists themselves raising the alarm about AI's potential harms to equality, privacy, and security.
Challenging this consensus is Orly Lobel, a law professor at the University of San Diego and the author of the new book, "The Equality Machine: Harnessing Digital Technology for a Brighter, More Inclusive Future." Lawfare Senior Editor Alan Rozenshtein sat down with Orly to discuss her book, why she's optimistic about AI's potential to advance equality, and what the government can do to help.
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| 0:29.0 | And the other thing is just kind of more, putting in place more, I think, |
| 0:39.0 | a civil society that is incentivized and sometimes even required by fair laws. |
| 0:47.0 | So I talk about like the way that we have hacking and ethical hackers that are out there in the markets, |
| 0:56.0 | in security, for example, in cyber security, I think there can be a role for organizations that are kind of in the nonprofit world that do much more of the kind of like hacking, |
| 1:09.0 | but the work of getting bounties for identifying algorithmic bias and inaccuracies and identifying the gold standards and best practices of some companies in their automation. |
| 1:23.0 | And we need to fund all that, that costs money, but that's the vision. |
| 1:28.0 | I'm Alan Rosenstein, Associate Professor of Law at the University of Minnesota and Senior Editor at LawFair. |
| 1:34.0 | And this is the LawFair podcast, March 17, 2023. |
| 1:38.0 | Artificial intelligence is advancing at what seems like an exponential rate, |
| 1:43.0 | with every month, sometimes every week, bringing news of a new game-changing discovery. |
| 1:49.0 | But just as the progress in AI is accelerating, so is the pessimism about it. |
| 1:53.0 | With many scholars, commentators and technologists themselves, raising the alarm about AI's potential harms to equality, privacy, and security. |
| 2:02.0 | Challenging this consensus is Orly Lobel, a law professor at the University of San Diego and the author of the new book, The Equality Machine, |
| 2:09.0 | harnessing digital technology for a brighter, more inclusive future. |
| 2:13.0 | I spoke with Orly about her book, why she's optimistic about AI's potential to advance equality, and what the government can do to help. |
| 2:20.0 | It's the LawFair podcast, March 17, Orly Lobel, on how AI can make the world a better, more equal place. |
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