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The movie Origin follows a writer who faces personal loss at the same time she works on a book based on her unified theory about systems of oppression.

The writer and the book are real.

Isabel Wilkerson's cast was a recent bestseller.

The film was written and directed by Ava Duvronet

and dramatizes that book's ideas while depicting the way it came together.

I'm Aisha Harris.

And I'm Stephen Thompson.

Today we are talking about origin on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.

Joining us today is Jarrett Hill and Trayvon

Anderson. They are the co-authors of the book

Historically Black Phrases and hosts of the Black Culture Game Show

Historically Black Phrases live coming to a city near you throughout February.

Hey Jarrett, hey there, thanks for having us.

And hey Trevel.

Hello, hello.

It is a pleasure to have you both.

So Isabel Wilkerson published the best selling book, Cast, The Origins of Our Discontents.

In 2020, the book argued that systems of oppression are structured around cast rather than

race.

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