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Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence,

Rhode Island. NYCDSA ran Zulran Mamdani for mayor. He's a cadre member of that socialist

organization, the most powerful in this country. His victory marked a massive step forward for their remarkable

power building project. But NYCDSA wasn't the only organization standing with Zoron on day

one of his campaign. Drum, Desi's Rising Up and Moving, and Cav organizing Asian communities,

organize powerful bases in New York's working class Asian immigrant communities.

Their political sibling organizations, drum beats, and Cav voice,

endorsed Zoran from the get-go. This interview is with Drum

Executive Director Fahad Ahmed and Cav-organizing director Alina Shen. We discuss the theory of

power that shapes their organizing projects. How and why they linked up with the Mamdani campaign? And what things are like

now that they have a comrade in power? And all the opportunities, limits, and contradictions that

entails. Speaking of contradictions, we must raise money through the capitalist website, patreon.com,

to keep this socialist podcast up and running strong.

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