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Factually! with Adam Conover

Organizing for Power with Jane McAlevey

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Adam talks with legendary organizer Jane McAlevey about why organizing is the only way for unions, workers, and activists to win gains, and how to do it in practice. Pick up Jane’s book at http://factuallypod.com/books Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This is a headgum podcast.

0:30.8

Hello and welcome to Factually, I'm Adam Conover. Thank you so much for joining me on the show

0:35.7

once again. Let's jump right into it. Capitalism is coming for all of us and the companies

0:40.7

are more powerful than ever. They're getting bigger and bigger and this century we have seen

0:45.4

the creation of brand new strategies the companies use to dominate and crush workers finding new

0:51.7

and exciting ways to exploit us and pay us less. The only way for the little guys that's us workers

0:57.9

to fight back and provide for ourselves is for us to come together and fight collectively for what

1:03.5

we need. In other words, when you're fighting against a big adversary, you need to make yourself big

1:08.8

and that is what a union does. At least when a union does, when it's supposed to. See, unions don't

1:15.5

always work. Their organizations that sometimes get flawed. They stop using member power and instead,

1:21.6

they try to fight through the court, so through marketing campaigns or through lobbying politicians.

1:26.4

And when they do that, they usually start losing. What makes a union work is something more

1:32.5

fundamental and that is organizing. Organizing is the process by which individuals come together

1:38.8

to figure out our common needs and then build power to fight for those needs. It's how real unions

1:45.2

win our gains by forcing concessions from the management. And it's also how other movements have

1:51.1

won gains throughout American history, whether that's auto workers, farm workers, or civil rights

1:56.4

advocates. Organizing is how we win. It's the fundamental building block of positive change.

2:02.8

And here on the show today, we have an incredible expert who is going to tell us about exactly how

2:08.8

to do it. But before we get to that, I want to remind you that if you want to support this show,

2:12.7

head to patreon.com slash adon carnivore. Just five bucks a month gets you every episode of

2:17.6

this show ad free and a bunch of other goodies. And you'll be supporting me and this show. And

2:22.1

I thank you for doing so. And just a reminder, I am also going on tour this year doing my brand new

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