We can't organize a revolution online.

We're going to have to have meetings, get in one another spaces, sit down, have some difficult

conversations.

Because if you want to be honest, even in our movement spaces, there are silos, there's division,

there are people who don't work with this one and that one, who's too radical, who's too

liberal, and, you know, really make an

assessment because otherwise we're going, we're not going to survive this moment. I'm just being

honest. It's no way we can fight each other and them. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the podcast. Tamika D. Mallory is a trailblazing social justice leader, a movement

strategist, globally recognized civil rights activist, co-founder of Until Freedom, and historic

women's march that we all experienced in 2017.

And she served as the youngest ever executive director of the National Action Network.

This lady has been laying down some tracks in some very important spaces.

Her speech in the wake of the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis entitled State of Emergency

was dubbed the speech of a generation by ABC News.

That's how impactful she has been.

Ms. Valerie is an expert in the areas of gun violence prevention,

criminal justice reform, and grassroots organizing. And we talk a little bit about all of that.

As we journey with her through her new memoir, I live to tell the story, a memoir of love,

legacy, and resilience. It's out now. We like you to get a

copy of it. I think you will enjoy it when you do. We'll talk about that and enjoy the experience

of Tamika DeMallery right here on the Michael Steele podcast right after this.

Everybody, welcome to the Michael Still podcast.

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