What is up?

What is up everyone? Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. We are joined again by Joe Lample, the Joe behind Joe Gardner.com.

Joe is the host of growing a greener world on PBS

and he's the creator of the online gardening academy.

There are multiple in-depth gardening courses in there

including master seed starting, which is open right now and you can go find that at

Joe Gardner.com forward slash epic so Joe we're gonna talk today about I think a

topic I wouldn't maybe call it controversial I guess in some ways it is and it's it's the idea of

buying organic seeds versus buying non-organic seeds which some people would call quote-unquote conventional seeds and I think neither of us really like that terminology too much

Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah the convention if you wanted to call it conventional or non-organic, basically I talk about an organic

seed is one that's been growing out completely organic without any chemical input.

And so anything that's not organic has probably been you

know doused over its lifetime with a lot of artificial inputs or synthetic inputs but

that's to me kind of the different differentiator is that organic is just growing without any chemical inputs and because of that it's you know

It's got a lot of natural

Qualities to it because it's just it's had to you know grow its whole life without any

help from you know those artificial input so we'll talk about that more but that's

that's kind of my take on it yeah Yeah, and I know it's tricky because,

and I think I've done a couple episodes

on this in the past, and I'm sure you've talked about it as well,

is just the terminology of organic

is now a certification as well as just a colloquial term for things that are quote unquote natural right and so it can be confusing

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