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Tides of History

Ordinary People in Ancient East Asia: Interview with Professor Kate Pechenkina

Tides of History

Wondery / Patrick Wyman

Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.86.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Professor Kate Pechenkina is an expert on the bioarchaeology of East Asia, utilizing cutting-edge tools to tell us about the lives and experiences of ordinary people in the distant past: diet, disease, trauma, the kinds of topics that written evidence simply doesn't illuminate.


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0:00.0

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0:04.3

Join Wundery Plus in the Wundery welcome to another episode of Tides of History. I'm Patrick

0:22.4

Wymann. Thanks so much for being here with me today. Welcome to another episode of Tides of History. I'm Patrick Wyman.

0:22.9

Thanks so much for being here with me today.

0:25.0

Over the past several years, I've talked a great deal about the new vistas that are

0:28.8

opening up onto the study of the past thanks to cutting-edge scientific tools. Some archaeologists have even called this the third science

0:35.5

revolution in archaeology and have argued that new approaches such as ancient DNA and stable isotope

0:40.6

analysis have launched us into a different stratosphere of possibilities.

0:45.1

From my perspective, that of a layperson who spent a lot of time around the material, I think

0:49.1

there's a pretty good case to be made for that.

0:51.9

The biggest reason is that these tools allow us to know people in the past,

0:55.8

real people, in a way that has never been possible before. And injuries, disease, and dietary

1:00.7

patterns, things that we can see in individuals, add up to a much more human view of ancient societies when we view them in the aggregate.

1:08.0

Today's guest works right on the cutting edge of these developments, and she does so primarily in a geographic region where these tools have a spectacular amount to tell us.

1:17.0

East Asia.

1:18.0

Kate Petronkina is professor of anthropology at Queen's College, the City University of New York, and also serves as Dean of Faculty for the School of Social Sciences.

1:26.9

Her research focuses on bioarchiology in East Asia, spanning everything from isotope analysis to paleopathology to disease.

1:34.9

But what I find really fascinating about her work is that it always keeps an eye on the

1:38.7

larger social implications of these findings, such as gender and other forms of inequality, the really big things that get at the heart of life in ancient societies.

1:47.0

Professor Pachankina, thank you so much for joining me today.

1:50.0

Hello.

1:52.0

So how did you get interested in bioarchology and why did you decide to focus on East Asia in particular?

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