There's a famous story that when Sigmund Freud came to this country, you know, early part of the

20th century, apparently allegedly some reporters came up and said, Dr. Freud, what do you hope to do

with your time here in the United States? And he said, well, well, well, ultimately, I want to be

able to determine the difference between true psychiatric illness and ordinary misery. Ordinary misery is good. How do we treat

most psychiatric illness today? Exposure. Exposure therapy has been shown to be one of the most

significant advances in psychiatric care. Not a safe space, not avoiding things you find unpleasant.

Exposure to things.

That's how you develop resiliency and strength and regulatory capacities in the face of

difficulties.

Exposure.

Ordinary misery is good. You work it through. And exposure is how you build

mental health. We have done the freaking opposite for the last 30 years. We've created a population

that is not healthy mentally. I'm sorry. And at very minimum,

you should be worrying about meaning-making and contributing more than we do,

not getting or experiencing.

We should be making meaning.

That's of our lives.

That's the most important.

Humans are meaning-making machines.

Thank you. that's the most important. Humans are meaning-making machines. Growing up in Southern California,

Dr. Drew was a mainstay on K-Rock radio, but he is just gone on to have an amazing career.

You may know him as Dr. Drew, Dr. Drew, Dr. D Pinsky. I'm so pleased to have him with us today. We're going to talk about everything. I mean, we're going to talk about Maha,

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