Orban: Venezuela ‘good news’ for Hungary & Putin ‘fears’ condemning US action
Ukraine: The Latest
Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 5 January 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Day 1,411.
Today, as the world reacts to America’s operation in Venezuela over the weekend, we explore Moscow’s notably muted response - a silence that hints at the tension inside the Kremlin between defending an ally and condemning US action, risking Donald Trump’s wrath, or quietly applauding an example of international intervention. We also hear from Hungary, where Francis puts questions to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.
Contributors
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor of Defence). @DomNicholls on X.
Francis Dearnley (Executive Editor for Audio). @FrancisDearnley on X.
James Kilner (Russia Analyst). @jkjourno on X
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph. |
| 0:05.0 | I'm Domnichols and this is Ukraine the latest. |
| 0:12.0 | Today, as the world reacts to America's operation in Venezuela over the weekend, we explore Moscow's muted response, |
| 0:19.0 | hinting at the tension in Moscow between sticking up for an ally and condemning the US action, |
| 0:23.6 | thereby risking Trump's wrath, or applauding the example of international intervention. |
| 0:29.6 | We also hear from Hungary, where Francis has been putting questions to its Prime Minister for the last 15 years, Victor Orban. |
| 0:36.6 | Bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory. |
| 0:45.3 | The Russia does not want peace. |
| 0:48.3 | First, we're in our help for the Ukraine, |
| 0:51.3 | also our freedom and our European |
| 0:56.0 | Writers. |
| 0:57.0 | If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day, 24 hours. |
| 1:01.0 | We are with you, not just today or tomorrow, but for a hundred years. |
| 1:06.0 | We can't, as Europeans, let's gain the Russia in Ukraine. |
| 1:10.0 | Nobody's going to break us. We're strong. We're Ukrainians. |
| 1:15.6 | It's Monday, the 5th of January, three years and 317 days, since the full-scale invasion began. |
| 1:22.2 | And today, I'm joined by the Telegraph's executive editor for Audio, Francis Dernley, |
| 1:26.3 | and Russia expert, James Kilner. |
| 1:28.9 | I started by introducing the Russian response to America's action in Venezuela over the weekend. |
| 1:36.8 | So the weekend news was dominated, as you'll know, by events in Venezuela. |
| 1:41.1 | That's not for this pod to major on, but there is definitely some crossover. |
| 1:45.6 | Now, the Russian response so far has been fairly muted. It seems as if they can't decide |
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