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Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

Option B with Adam Grant

Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

Audacy

Education, Investing, Business, Self-improvement

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2017

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

By now you may have seen or heard an interview with Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg discussing her recently released new book, Option B: Facing Adversity, Building Resilience, and Finding Joy. Although she is the headliner, Sandberg had a co-author on the project -- the incredible Adam Grant, an organizational psychologist, professor and accomplished author in his own right. We were lucky enough to land Adam as this week’s Better Off guest. Adam, named Wharton’s top-rated professor for five straight years, has already authored two New York Times bestselling books. Originals explores how individuals champion new ideas and leaders fight groupthink and Give and Take examines why helping others drives our success. His latest project with Sandberg focuses on resilience and how to use it in everyday life to become better off, a core theme of our podcast. Life isn’t always a smooth ride and inevitably you’re going to have to deal with some bumps in the road. Whether it’s the loss of a loved one, the loss of a job or a bad financial decision, at some point along the way there are going to be tough times that you will face. For Sheryl this moment came after the sudden death of her husband Dave Goldberg. Stuck in a deep void, she felt that she and her children would never again experience joy. It was Adam who helped her realize that there are concrete steps she could take to recover and rebound from the life-shattering experience. Adam notes that deep down inside all of us, we all have resilience -- and combined with a support system, it’s possible for of us to grow and find even greater appreciation in our lives. I think this book with help you prepare for the next hurdle you encounter. Quick side note...it’s always our goal to get our guests with us in-studio but due to conflicting schedules, we conducted this interview on the phone. Because Adam we was so good and the topic so important, we decided the phone shouldn’t stop us from running it. We hope you agree! “Better Off” is sponsored by Betterment. We love feedback so please leave us a rating or review in iTunes. "Better Off" theme music is by Joel Goodman, www.joelgoodman.com. For a recap of every episode, visit https://www.betterment.com/resources/topics/inside-betterment/better-off-podcast/. Connect with me at these places for all my content: http://www.jillonmoney.com/ https://twitter.com/jillonmoney https://www.facebook.com/JillonMoney https://www.instagram.com/jillonmoney/ https://www.youtube.com/c/JillSchlesinger https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillonmoney/ https://soundcloud.com/jill-schlesinger http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/jill-on-money http://betteroffpodcast.com/ https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/better-off-jill-schlesinger/id431167790?mt=2

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Jill Schlesinger, and on today's episode, my interview with Adam Grant.

0:08.0

He is the co-author with Cheryl Sandberg of Option B, facing adversity, building resilience, and finding joy.

0:15.0

One of the mistakes that I've made my whole life is when somebody was ill or facing loss,

0:19.5

I would say, please let me know if there's anything I can do.

0:21.9

You know, I thought that was the way that you show your willingness to be helpful and only now do I realize

0:26.1

how insensitive that is because it forces the other person.

0:29.4

It's just the burden to them to know what they need and to be comfortable asking for it.

0:34.0

Welcome to the Better Off Podcast sponsored by Betterman,

0:38.0

The Smarter Way to Invest Your Money.

0:40.0

On today's episode, we've got a great interview with Adam Grant. He's the co-author with

0:46.5

Cheryl Sandberg of the new book, Option B, facing adversity, building resilience, and finding joy.

0:53.5

Now, normally I really try to wrangle guests

0:56.3

to be live in the studio.

0:58.0

But because of his crazy schedule,

1:00.4

we really just had to do this interview on the phone.

1:03.0

I think it was worth it.

1:05.0

Adam is a psychologist and a professor at Wharton

1:08.0

and what he brought to the project with Cheryl Sandberg

1:11.0

was that he really helped her through the early stages of her getting

1:16.8

through the loss of her husband, the sudden tragic death of her husband, and how she managed that with her kids and what we can learn from

1:27.2

these experiences that these terrible circumstances can be breeding ground for tremendous growth.

1:36.6

So Adam Grant is really someone who I think provides a lot of inspiration and I was so excited to talk to him. I hope you enjoy the interview.

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