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As I said, to my 30 master's degree students, how many of you have ever once in your life read the Declaration of Independence?

And only two hands went up.

I then said, okay, how many of you in your life have ever read

at least some portions of the 1619 project? And almost every hand went up. And so it's not just that

we're neglecting to teach some important foundational eras and ideas in history, but instead it's

often being replaced with much more politicized or tendentious. And again, I'm not saying don't read the 1619 project, but if that's all that they're reading,

that's the distortion that we're trying to correct.

It's 9 p.m. on Wednesday, May 28th here in New York City. It's 4 a.m. on Thursday, May 29th in Israel, after Israelis just marked 600 days since Hamas invaded Israel.

600 days that 58 hostages still remain in captivity in Gaza.

There is a lot of news happening right now from Israel's expanded military operations in Gaza

to movement on hostage negotiations, movement, at least according to Steve Whitkoff,

as well as movement on the U.S. Iran nuclear negotiations

and increasing international pressure on Israel. So we are going to be releasing an episode later today,

Thursday with analysis from Call Me Back regulars Nadav Ayal and Amit Segel.

So be on the lookout for that.

Before today's conversation, one housekeeping note next week on June 4th in the evening at 7.30 p.m.

I'll be in conversation live with Brett McGurk, who was the Biden administration's point man on the Hamas-Israel war and the hostage negotiations. Brett also worked closely with Steve Whitkoff on the Hamas Israel War and the hostage negotiations.

Brett also worked closely with Steve Whitkoff on the January hostage deal.

Brett has strong views about what worked and what didn't work in these various rounds of

negotiations and where the blame lies.

Brett was also working on Saudi Israel normalization and still spends a lot of time

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