Welcome to the Black Girl Burnout Podcast. Kelly here. And we're closing out our week with Kristen B. Carter. In this portion of the interview, we talk about joy. You know, it's my favorite part of our conversations,

usually when I have guests on.

And we talk about what brings Kristen Joy

and what she does to protect her joy.

Let's jump back into this conversation

and hear more from Kristen v. Carter.

For a long time, I've been a rider. and hear more from Kristen v. Carter.

We're back. This week has flown by talking with this conversation with you, Kristen.

I have so enjoyed this. I think there's so much great insights our audience is going to get.

I love talking to people who are young and professional and polished and most importantly, fun and joyful. I think that's more important

than anything else because I think the thing about black women is we're going to get the bag,

we're going to excel professionally. It doesn't matter what it is,

whatever that is. But so many of us have not benefited from joy-centered living, right? We've got

those things, but we're not joyful. We have health problems. We have all these different things,

the stigmas around blackness, the trauma around blackness that we don't always know.

I think it's a difference now.

I think we're shifting that.

I think millennials are changing that, frankly.

But it's still not enough about centering joy and centering our identity around joy.

And so my last question usually, my last bucket of questions usually for folks is, what brings you joy? How do you bask in joy in your life?

What brings me joy? I would say bringing my family and friends together. I love bringing people together. I would say being out in nature. So riding bikes, enjoying the sun, having an opportunity to go outside, which I say is challenging when you're editing a show and you're hemmed up in the house.

So it's important to remember that.

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