Oprah upends the British Empire
Pod Save the World
Pod Save the World
4.8 • 25.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 March 2021
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Summary
Tommy and Ben discuss the latest massive state-sponsored hack on American businesses and government email servers, Biden’s efforts to end the war in Afghanistan, the need to rethink counterterrorism policies, protests in Senegal, why pineapple is patriotic in Taiwan, Russian efforts to undermine confidence in American Covid vaccines, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s sit-down with Oprah, and more. Then, Tommy interviews Verónica Gago, a professor and a leader of Argentina’s Ni Una Menos movement that helped legalize abortion.
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| 0:00.0 | [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ |
| 0:10.8 | Welcome back to Pazza, the world I'm Tommy Vitor. |
| 0:13.0 | I'm Ben Rhodes. |
| 0:14.0 | And combined, neither of us is half of an Oprah Winfrey. |
| 0:18.5 | Holy shit, what an interview you've been. |
| 0:20.8 | Yeah, I mean, like as someone who talks too much, |
| 0:24.5 | the genius of not talking as an interviewer definitely came across. |
| 0:30.7 | And it was like, I was gripping, it was riveting television. |
| 0:34.0 | It was riveting. We're going to give the people what they want. |
| 0:37.0 | We're going to get to that later. |
| 0:38.2 | But you got a hint, Oprah. She's the best in the business for reason. |
| 0:41.7 | Yeah, you know what I learned from her? |
| 0:44.4 | It was, as you just said, shut up and listen. |
| 0:47.2 | And then also from Oprah and Terry Gross, you learn the power of crafting the shortest |
| 0:53.9 | question possible, which I literally never do on the show. |
| 0:56.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:56.6 | Because I recite a ton of context, but it is amazing how much they are able to get people to open up |
| 1:02.5 | just by saying one sentence. |
| 1:04.6 | Well, and one other thing I learned is, |
| 1:07.1 | and Terry Gross does this well too, if someone says something kind of interesting, |
| 1:11.8 | don't move on to the next question. |
| 1:13.7 | Like just keep them on it and kind of keep them on it by agreeing with them. |
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