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Matter of Opinion

‘Oppenheimer’ and the Siren Song of World-Ending Technology

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Christopher Nolan’s blockbuster hit “Oppenheimer” tells the story of the father of the atomic bomb and the invention he hoped would end all wars. (Spoiler alert: It did not.) On “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss how history should view J. Robert Oppenheimer — naïve martyr or crybaby? — and whether we have more to fear from nuclear weapons in the age of artificial intelligence.

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0:00.0

So we drove out to the Midwest for vacation.

0:05.0

And so I was like, oh, we'll just audiobook it.

0:07.5

And between the drive back and forth,

0:10.5

I barely had covered half of the book

0:13.2

because it was like 27 hours or something ridiculous.

0:16.3

But you subjected your family to the Oppenheimer audiobook?

0:19.3

They loved it, or they lied to me.

0:22.2

Either way.

0:23.1

Well, I mean, I read it when it came out

0:24.0

it's like 17 years ago.

0:25.2

So that doesn't, I mean, I don't even know.

0:26.5

So once was, I didn't know.

0:27.7

I just remember that it was great.

0:28.8

No.

0:29.8

So I had to read it again.

0:30.6

I'm right, sure.

0:31.4

No.

0:32.3

From New York Times opinion, I'm Ross Douthet.

0:37.8

I'm Michelle Cattle.

0:39.0

I'm Carlos Lozato.

0:40.3

And I'm Lydia Pogring.

0:41.8

And this is Matter of Opinion.

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