Okay, we are alive. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates.

Today's show of a very special guest, a returning guest. He's name is Austin Picardy, operates the underclass podcast.

I had him on originally to talk about the Solar Temple. That was a very well-received, very much commented on episode we did.

We just talked last week.

And we covered a number of different topics.

Some people don't know about the Hosanna church scandal that True Detective was kind of

based on or influenced by.

And so that was something we talked about out of Louisiana.

Really dark.

That's super dark.

And then also we cover Pilgr pilgrim society a little bit of

mind war which is kind of ties into today's topic I wanted to I was looking through his catalog

on his very well researched episodes on his podcast and came across mongenberg I haven't done a show

on that and something kind of strange happened because when I,

when we set up this date to the 25th to talk about it, I hadn't come across this other book that came

across my desk, which was one I just talked about today, twilight of the shadow government.

And sometimes I don't know what's inside of these books. Well, then I started reading through

Kevin Schip's book and it's all about mockingbird. So like I like did a primer's inside of these books. Well, then I started reading through Kevin Schip's book, and it's all about Mockingbird.

So, like, I, like, did a primer on Mockingbird reading his book

to come up to today's discussion about Mockingbird.

And I really probably should have made a title that was more detailed

because it's Mockingbird leading up to today.

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