Hi, I'm Steve Hassan and welcome to the influence continuum.

I am delighted to have a very dear old friend and colleague over 30 years.

We've known each other.

John Aetack, who lives in Nottingham, England. And John and I met, I think, in 1989. And John was the

foremost expert on Scientology, and I was the foremost expert on the Mooney's. And we just

like clicked. And we've become fast friends ever since.

And John, it's a delight to have you on my podcast and I want to just read.

I want to introduce John A.Tack's new book, Opening Our Minds, which exposes the similarities between authoritarian cults,

multi-level marketers, pedophile groomers, terrorist radicalizers, pimps, and even spousal abusers.

It highlights the manipulative tricks shared by political spin doctors, advertisers, and PR people.

The book shows how to recognize human predators and prevent them from influencing our kids and ourselves.

John has helped more than 600 people in their recovery.

He's been a consultant or expert witness in at least 150 court actions and worked on over

200 media pieces.

John has published more than 500 articles and papers and over 300 videos.

He has a YouTube channel.

His history of Scientology, let's sell these people, a piece of blue sky

is a bestseller that Scientology tried to suppress and failed. He has spoken at conferences all

over the world and led the five-day getting clear of Scientology seminar in Toronto, and I was

very grateful to be a guest speaker with him. He's a scholar

practitioner for 40 years. And John, as you know, I'm your biggest fan. You are a treasure of knowledge and experience, but what I love also about you is you're

a real human being, you're well-rounded, you're down to earth, you have humility, you're a musician,

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