Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host, Jaden Schaefer. Today on the show, we have some

latest advancements in the whole story between the showdown of Anthropic and the Department

of War, the Pentagon. They've essentially been, they're moving to designate them as a supply chain

risk. And it looks like Anthropic may have been played by Sam Altman and OpenAI, who have

swooped in and taken the contract

that the Department of War has just canceled. So anyways, there's a whole bunch of drama in there.

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I think that is going to be really important for how AI is used inside of government going

forward in the future. And that is kind of who is, you know, who's in control of these AI systems

that are powering the most powerful national defense systems. So Anthropic CEO Dario Amadeo, he said, like he basically

made this big statement where he's basically saying he doesn't want his AI models to be used

for two specific things, mass domestic surveillance of Americans and also fully autonomous weapons

that select and engage targets without human involvement. So those are kind of his two red lines.

And between and, you know, between those two things, he said that, look, we can't keep supporting the military

on these different use cases that they might be pursuing. And so he kind of put safety guards

and guardrails into what Anthropic is capable of doing so that the government can't do that.

Now, the Pentagon's position is also, I mean, they're very direct on what they want.

So the secretary, Hegg Seth, basically is arguing the Department of Defense shouldn't be constrained on their use cases by the internal policies of an AI company.

Now, on the one hand, I agree with Anthropic in a sense that I don't

want the government doing mass surveillance of Americans with AI systems. And I also agree that,

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