OpenAI CTO Mira Murati on ScarJo Controversy, Sam Altman & Disinfo Fears

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New York Magazine

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🗓️ 13 June 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Kara interviews Mira Murati, Chief Technology Officer at OpenAI, and one of the most powerful people in tech. Murati has helped the company skyrocket to the forefront of the generative AI boom, and Apple’s recent announcement that it will soon put ChatGPT in its iPhones, iPads and laptops will only help increase their reach. But OpenAI's rapid ascent has included its fair share of growing pains. There was “the blip,” as company insiders refer to the brief ousting of Sam Altman as CEO. (Murati became CEO for two days.) There have also been high-profile departures, an open letter accusing the company of putting product over safety, questions about highly restrictive NDAs, and even controversy over whether the company had stolen Scarlett Johansson's voice. On top of that, many fear that generative AI tools, like ChatGPT, will be used to fuel disinformation during the upcoming presidential election. Kara and Murati talk about all this, and more. This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their new Discovery Series. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find Kara on Instagram/Threads as @karaswisher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Kara. This week I kicked off a new partnerships with Johns Hopkins University.
0:06.0	Over four events in the next year, I'll be hosting lively, timely discussions on AI,
0:10.1	tech policy, the upcoming election, and more at the Hopkins
0:13.2	Bloomberg Center in Washington DC as part of the center's new
0:16.8	discovery series. On today's episode you can listen to our inaugural
0:20.8	conversation featuring my interview with open AI CTO
0:24.4	Mira Marotti. I'll keep you posted on future installments but they're going to be
0:28.7	good. Hi, everyone. Hi everyone from New York magazine and the Vox Media
0:46.8	Podcast network this is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher. Today we
0:51.1	have an interview with Mira Marotti, the chief technology officer at Open AI.
0:56.3	Open AI has certainly been in the news, but not many people know about Mira herself.
1:00.8	She's only 35, but she's already one of the most influential women. Scratch that, one of the most
1:05.2	influential people in tech. She helped open AI sky rocket to the forefront of the generative
1:11.1	AI boom with the launch of chatGPT in late 2022 and what a ride it's
1:16.7	been.
1:17.7	The company's now valued at $80 billion after a big investment by Microsoft and it recently signed a deal with Apple to put
1:25.3	chat cheapity in Apple products. It's a major move by a very small company. Of course
1:31.1	it hasn't always been good news after the board fired Sam Altman
1:34.4	Mira became CEO for just two days in what the company called the blip
1:39.5	until Sam was reinstated. Since then open AIs had to deal with a string of bad news cycles.
1:45.0	There have been high-profile departures, an open letter accusing the company of putting
1:48.8	product over safety, questions about highly restrictive NDAs, and even controversy over whether or not
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