OpenAI CEO Sam Altman on GPT-4 & the A.I. Arms Race

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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We’re on the cusp of an artificial intelligence arms race that has venture capitalists drooling, regulators petrified and competitors from Google to Microsoft to Elon Musk racing to get their products out the door. Kara talks to Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI and the man who’s led the launches of ChatGPT and GPT-4. They discuss the hallucinations of ChatGPT+, why Open AI moved from an open-source nonprofit to a closed-source “capped profit” company and why Altman doesn’t believe artificial intelligence developers should enjoy Section 230 immunity. Afterwards, Kara and Nayeema break down the interview and the promises and perils of an unknowable A.I.-powered future. Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:10.0	This is Nonprofit Open AI, which is now very much for profit and 100% scarier.
0:16.5	Just kidding, actually I'm not kidding.
0:18.4	This is on with Cara Swisher and I'm Cara Swisher.
0:21.2	And I'm Neymaraza.
0:22.2	It's amazing how an open source non-profit has moved to being a close source private company
0:26.7	with the big deal with Microsoft.
0:29.1	Very shocked?
0:30.1	No.
0:31.1	Not even slightly.
0:32.1	It's a huge opportunity.
0:33.1	I'm in San Francisco now and it's really jumping with AI.
0:36.2	Crypto didn't quite work out and anyway those people moved to Miami and so it's very AI-oriented
0:41.9	right now.
0:42.9	Everybody's thinking about a startup in AI.
0:45.0	Are you more bullish on AI than Web 3?
0:47.2	Well, so that's kind of a low bar.
0:49.2	Yeah.
0:50.2	I've always been bullish on AI.
0:51.2	I've talked about a lot over the years and this is just a version of it as it becomes
0:55.6	more and more sophisticated and useful to people.
0:57.8	So I've always thought it was important.
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