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Hard Fork

OpenAI Calls a ‘Code Red’ + Which Model Should I Use? + The Hard Fork Review of Slop

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

“For OpenAI to realize its ambitions, it is not going to be enough for them to make a model that is as good as Gemini 3. They need to be able to leapfrog it again.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Casey, how's it going?

0:02.1

Good morning, Kevin.

0:03.3

I am doing well, as well as can be expected, given that I had a colonoscopy yesterday.

0:09.5

Yes, I heard about this. How did it go?

0:11.0

Well, I got a clean bill of health. I will say, though, there was one moment during the procedure that was sort of alarming to me.

0:18.3

What was that?

0:18.7

Well, I had met, you know, the various nurses and the doctors and

0:21.9

everyone was so friendly, you know, and was introducing themselves. But as they sort of put in the

0:27.0

medicine to make me kind of go under, I noticed that there was one medical professional who was

0:32.2

against the wall and she was scrolling through her phone. And the last thought I had before I went under was,

0:38.7

I really hope she's not looking up how to do a colonoscopy.

0:42.5

You know what I mean?

0:43.9

Because she kind of had that look on her face.

0:46.4

Like, I need to jog my memory about what I'm doing here.

0:50.3

And I thought, oh, God, I hope she already knows.

0:53.0

No, she was on TikTok.

0:55.0

She was live streaming your colonoscopy to her hundreds of thousands of followers.

0:59.2

I had that thought.

1:00.3

I was like, could we get more or fewer viewers to the YouTube channel if we went live with my colonoscopy?

1:06.7

They're always saying, be authentic.

1:08.3

Exactly.

1:08.9

Bring your whole self to work.

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