Hey pull up a chair. It's tax on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

Murphy! Hey, Ax, how are you? Murphy? How you doing, brother? Hey, you know, I want

you to know I'm wearing a hat. You know why I'm wearing a hat? A pattern baldness? That's normally

why I'm wearing a hat, but today I'm wearing a hat because guess who's joining us today?

The hat master, tell us. Our old buddy, Mark McKinnon, who has done more for the

Stetson than anyone since Lyndon Johnson. And I thought I ought to, as an homage to him,

I ought to be wearing a hat today, so I put on this Cubs cap. It's a less classy, but nonetheless,

there you have it, Mark McKinnon. Well, I'm honored from the hat master to the

hack master. Oh, there you go. See, that's why we wanted him because he immediately jumped on that

opportunity there. So I will say this about the hat. It is certainly an affect, but it's not a

recently acquired affect. It's not a picture me growing up, I don't know the hat on my head. Yeah, and you said

your dad was a big hat guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My dad wore it had exactly like this. His

dad wore hats and his mom wore scarves and he's like a blend of the two of them. I remember,

I remember back in the day in Austin when we were both thumping around politics. I think you

were, you were still gnawing a limb off to escape the Democratic Party. This is like 1990.

You know, we're way back. I remember you had a hat back then. You were working on like a

mares race. And anyways, so yeah, you have always been the hat guy. I think you're dad.

We were that's where that's where McKinnon and I met. We worked on that race together. But listen,

guys, I'd love to talk about this all day, but there's a pandemic going on. What?

The country's locked down. There's a presidential race going on. And we got a president who is, well,

you know, the last night after he did his press conference, he tweeted that he was freezing

all immigration into the country. Apparently caught his homeland security people and the folks

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