Hello and welcome to this Trump Inc. podcast extra, I'm Andrea Bernstein.

On our first episode of the podcast, we looked at the moment back in January 2017 when Donald

Trump is announcing to the world that he's retaining full ownership of his sprawling

business empire even though he's headed to the White House.

Because as you know, I have a no conflict situation because I'm president.

Our friend Dan Alexander at Forbes, along with his colleague Matt Drainch, has just published

a story that's helping us understand even more about the president and his conflicts.

Dan, welcome to Trump Inc.

Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

Forgive me for not knowing this, but is Forbes still describing himself as capitalist

tool?

Yeah, absolutely.

We're the capitalist tool.

We're proud champions of capitalism.

We're all about entrepreneurs and people doing business the right way.

We just think that it's important to report on one of our own, if you will, a billionaire

who's been on our list for decades.

How long have you been covering Trump's business?

So yeah, is there something that you did before he was president?

Before he was president, I was working on our billionaire's list.

So I did several hundred valuations of other billionaires and then once he was elected

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