Ladies and gentlemen we are continuing our fascinating conversation with

Hedy Amir Mahdi who served in counterterrorism in the United States government over 20 years.

She served with five presidents at very high levels.

And if you hadn't listened to our first conversation that was posted last Friday you need to go back and

listen to that because we're going to pick up the conversation right where we left off

Headea as you may remember grew up in a secular home, but in a Muslim heritage home.

It became a Muslim. She's now a Christian. She heads resurrect ministry.com.

She's also an attorney and we had a great conversation about so many things about

Islam about the West about counter-terrorism and we're just picking up our conversation where we left off.

Heedia, we were talking just before we left about the government and the fact that it seems that the government flipped in its

the United States government flipped in its concern

over from Islamic terrorism to what they call domestic terrorism, the fact that they think their

conservatives are somehow a threat, including school moms that want their curriculum to be free of pornographic messages.

What do you think prompted that?

Was it just some kind of disdain for Donald Trump when he was elected in 2016 and took over in 2017?

I think it's not just disdain for him as a leader, it's a disdain for the

populist movement. So similarly to what you're seeing in Europe,

it's a disdain for the majority culture,

which is a Judeo-Christian culture.

It's the white culture. and it's a disdain for everything

that that represents, the conservative values. I mean think about all that's at stake at this

election, disinformation censorship of our First Amendment freedoms, castration of our children,

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