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OPCW chief dodges questions on Syria cover-up after new leaks, attacks on whistleblowers

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

For the first time, OPCW chief Fernando Arias was asked a series of direct questions at the United Nations about the cover-up of a Syria chemical weapons probe. Arias answered none of them. Russia's UN ambassador asked Arias about several damning leaks, some revealed by The Grayzone, as well as ongoing deceptive attacks on the veteran scientists who challenged the censorship of their investigation. Arias refused to answer in public session, and gave vague, non-substantive answers in private. Aaron Maté recaps the unanswered questions to Arias, as well as recent attacks on the OPCW whistleblowers via Western state-funded outlets Bellingcat and the BBC.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pushback. I'm Erin Mate.

0:06.1

Wanted to give you an update on what's been happening recently with the OPCW's Syria

0:12.7

cover-up scandal. As you know, probably we've covered this exhaustively at the Grey Zone.

0:17.8

I think it's one of the most important stories in the world. It gets almost

0:22.4

no attention in the Western media. I think that's a scandal in itself, as I've said many times.

0:29.5

And we're going to continue to cover it. And we're going to continue to try to break the sound

0:35.0

barrier around it. And so there are new developments to report. Let me just recap

0:39.4

the story quickly for anybody who might not be aware of it. In April 2018, Syria was accused of

0:45.6

committing a chemical weapons attack in the town of Duma. A week later, the U.S., Britain and

0:51.3

France bombed Syria in purported retaliation.

0:55.0

About a year after that, in March 2019, the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical

0:59.8

Weapons, the OPCW, put out a report that seemed to support the official U.S. line

1:06.6

that the Syrian government was guilty of a chlorine weapons attack.

1:11.8

But then a series of leaks began to emerge from inside the OPCW,

1:16.5

showing that the OPCW inspectors on the ground

1:19.8

had reached a far different conclusion than what their superiors said publicly

1:26.1

and put out in their final report.

1:28.3

And the evidence that the inspectors collected on the ground in Duma

1:33.3

did not support the narrative that the Syrian government was guilty of a chemical weapons attack.

1:38.3

And in fact, some evidence pointed to this being staged on the ground

1:42.3

by the militants who controlled Duma at the time,

1:45.5

a extremist militia named J. Shal Islam, which would make sense because from a point of view of

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