Being a man is hard work, we all have so many roles and responsibilities.

Husband, father, business owner, community leader, and the list goes on and on.

And in addition to that, the media and the world are trying to tell us how we should behave

and what it means to be a man by giving us a list of things like 27 ways to be a modern man.

My guest today, Mr. Jack Donovan, has narrowed down to four tactical virtues

that all men should strive to improve, the difference between masculinity and morality

and why we should care.

You're a man of action.

You live life to the fullest, embrace your fears, and boldly charge your own path.

When life knocks you down, you get back up one more time, every time.

You are not easily deterred or defeated, rugged, resilient, strong.

This is your life. This is who you are.

This is who you will become.

At the end of the day, and after all is said and done, you can call yourself a man.

Welcome back to the Order Man podcast.

My name is Brian Mickeur.

I am the host and the founder of Order Man.

And I'm glad to be back with you here again today.

Now, I've got Mr. Jack Donovan on the show to talk about.

You guessed it.

Masculinity.

But before I get into the show today, I want to give a quick thanks to those of you who left iTunes.

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