One Woman's Path From a U.S. College Campus to the Ukrainian Battlefield
Why It Matters
Council on Foreign Relations
4.2 • 876 Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | It's really, really hard to imagine any version of victory that includes giving away Ukrainian territory. |
| 0:09.5 | To me personally, retaining a claim on or getting those back is just a huge measure. |
| 0:15.8 | Like, that's my white whale in a way. |
| 0:18.3 | Like, that's what I'm chasing. |
| 0:19.9 | The overarching definition of |
| 0:21.4 | victory is that the Ukrainian nation is whole, that the state is legitimate, that we have control |
| 0:27.1 | over the state, that we have our democracy, and that we're at peace and can live freely. And so |
| 0:33.5 | we're trying to work towards that. This season, we've been looking at the war in Ukraine, |
| 0:39.8 | how it has reshaped the idea of modern conflict |
| 0:43.3 | and launched the world into a new era of warfare. |
| 0:47.3 | But from 30,000 feet, war can start to feel abstract. |
| 0:52.3 | After four years, the numbers of dead and wounded, the cities destroyed, |
| 0:56.9 | the countless drones and missile barrages can almost lose their meaning. So today, as part of our |
| 1:04.0 | special Ukraine miniseries, we're bringing you an on-the-ground perspective through one-person's story. |
| 1:10.9 | Her name is Kat Bukovsky. |
| 1:13.2 | She's a 25-year-old from Kiev, who, when the war began, was attending college in California, |
| 1:19.4 | lifetimes away from the front line. |
| 1:21.4 | But within days of Russia's invasion, she went home. |
| 1:25.2 | Since then, she co-founded the Snake Island Institute. |
| 1:29.1 | It's an independent Ukrainian group that studies defense |
| 1:32.1 | and develops new ideas to strengthen long-term ties |
| 1:35.5 | between Ukraine and its Western allies. |
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