Welcome to the Conversations of That Matter Podcast. We are going to talk today

about an article that was written last week making the rounds by

Karen Swallow prior and the reason I want to talk about it is

because it gives us some insights into the mind of someone who's very well

respected and pretty I would say indicative of kind of where the

evangelical left if we want to use that term is.

And I think, well, I'll save it till the end.

There's something else I want to bring out that I won't mention it now,

but at the end, after we go through this, I want to bring out that I won't mention it now but at the end after we go through this I want to

show you something that it just it's an illustration of something that oftentimes I've held my tongue

but I think it was just things lined up for me to say this I want to point

this out I just want to point it out and I won't tell you what it is yet but at the end

you'll see so I'm to kind of tee this up, this Karen Swallup prior piece, but it's for another purpose as well.

So not just to get the insights from her and what she's thinking what

evangelical people on the left are thinking and responding to it but also I want to

talk a little bit about those who at least say or are portrayed as

saying or believing that they're against the

social justice movement and kind of I want to examine them a little bit as well

here so that's what we're going to do and that's a little vague I by the way, I got to say this. Everyone who's kind of been bearing with me, I have been working very hard, long hours every day trying to get my house up and running so I can move into it and then hopefully that'll give me some time and I finally did move in we don't have a shower yet there's a

we're still in boxes we're living out of boxes my garage needs to be clean know, there's a whole bunch of things. But we're up to the point now. I mean, hey, look, we got a bed. We got a toilet. We got sinks. I mean, we can live there now. So I just appreciate everyone who's been praying and helping me out and it's just been a blessing to receive those encouraging notes from you all and so thank you for that. And so that's I see the light at the end of the tunnel but as soon as

as soon as right as I'm getting this up and running this is also happening so I'm

I'll enjoy it when I get back so here's here's the deal I want to show this everyone I'll blow it when I get back so here's the deal I want to show this everyone I'll

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