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CNN 5 Things

One Thing: Understanding Trump's Seismic Assault on Legal Immigration

CNN 5 Things

CNN

Daily News, News

4.3 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Green card holders. Refugees. Asylum seekers. Even naturalized citizens. Fear and confusion are gripping immigrants of all stripes across the country as President Donald Trump expands his restrictions on legal immigration in the wake of the National Guard shooting in Washington, DC. Is this about public safety, or something else? And could Trump’s xenophobic “garbage” comments about Somalis encourage more hateful rhetoric? We hear why the recent moves could jam up a system that’s already plenty clogged.  For more: How Trump is intensifying his crackdown on every form of immigration to the US  ---  Guests: Elissa J. Taub, immigration lawyer & Priscilla Alvarez, CNN Correspondent  Host: David Rind  Producer: Paola Ortiz  Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin  Editorial Support: Rob Kuznia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is one thing. I'm David Rind, and immigrating to the U.S. was never easy.

0:04.8

But now, depending on what country you're from, critics say it's basically impossible.

0:10.3

Anytime you throw a hurdle in what's already a system full of hurdles, it's just going to get more complicated and difficult for people who are, quote, unquote, trying to do it the right way.

0:23.3

Stick around.

0:29.1

Like spicy or do you like the sauce?

0:32.4

Hmm. How spicy is it?

0:35.0

You add tamarind so sweet spicy?

0:36.9

Let's do that. The 24th Somali Mall in Minneapolis is usually bustling.

0:43.3

The Minneapolis-St. Paul area is home to the largest population of Somalis in the entire country,

0:49.3

and a lot of them come here on a regular basis.

0:51.3

It's filled with barbershops, offices, boutiques, and restaurants

0:55.4

serving classic Somali dishes like Jabadi.

0:58.0

Have you bag it up for you? Sure, yes, please.

1:00.0

But when my colleague Rob Kozni has stopped by on Wednesday afternoon, he saw fewer people,

1:06.0

empty shops, and a lot more fear.

1:09.0

You see the mall now, people are scared. No one wants to come outside.

1:12.6

I don't want them in our country, I'll be honest with you.

1:17.6

Somebody would say, oh, that's not politically correct. I don't care.

1:20.6

I don't want them in our country. Their country's no good for a reason.

1:24.6

Their country stinks, and we don't want them in our country.

1:28.2

I could say that about us.

1:29.2

This was just one day after President Donald Trump went on a xenophobic rant against Somali

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