Hey there. Welcome to Landon Wall and Whitty on the road to Qatar. I'm Grant Wall. Thanks

so much for joining us. We've got reaction from Landon Donovan, Chris Whittingham and

me to the U.S. men's national teams. 5-1 win over Panama on World Cup qualifying,

match day 13, Landons in San Diego, Whitty and I are in Orlando, Florida, where I'm writing

for my sub-stack newsletter, which you should sign up for free or paid at Grantwall.com.

Guys, it's good to be with you. How are you? Yeah. I think we're on the last step on the

road to Qatar. We've just passed the last exit and we're just about there. That laugh from

Landon reminded me of Jesse Marshal's laugh after he got off that comment on the media

over in England about making fun of his accent. Yeah, it was like two beats too long that

laugh from just a bunch. Yeah, you see what I just did? Yeah, a lot of relief in both

of our laughs there. Yes. I mean, Christian Policic, Hat Trick, U.S. four goals in the first

half, two penalties. The U.S. had not drawn a penalty in this entire tournament leading into

this game. First goal by U.S. Center for it. He's used for Eris since Ricardo Pepe had

to in Austin in October. There's a lot of stuff that happens tonight that we haven't been

seeing much. Landon, what were your thoughts? You remember early in these podcasts we talked

about piling on pressure and the benefit of that is tonight showed up in penalties. So

you just pile on pressure. And when you say pressure, that also is pressure on the referee.

And referees are human. When there's, I don't know what the attendance is or the capacity is in

Orlando, but when you when you put pressure on the referee in front of that many American fans,

they're human and they're going to say penalty and you know, were they the most clear cut obvious

penalties ever? Maybe not, but you put pressure on and good things happen. So I was really impressed

with the way they, the way we started the game, how aggressive we were. And then you just put

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