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The NPR Politics Podcast

One Roadblock To Immigration Fix? GOP Politicians Love The Optics

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🗓️ 19 September 2022

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Though both parties have agreed for decades that the U.S. immigration system is in dire need of reform, the optics of border-crossing migrants have become a red-meat campaign tactic for Republicans, precluding the possibility of compromise legislation. Recent moves by the governors of Florida and Texas have put the issue back in the spotlight.

This episode: White House correspondent Asma Khalid, immigration correspondent Joel Rose, and national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

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0:00.0

Hey, what's up? NPR Politics Podcast. It's Ray von Owen. I'm a singer and songwriter,

0:06.0

but I also deliver the remains of dead pets to the stars of Hollywood. I know. This podcast was

0:13.6

recorded at 12.36 pm Eastern time on Monday, September 19th. Things may have changed by the time

0:22.1

you hear this, but I may or may not still be delivering and now just being a star. All right,

0:28.5

now here's the show. Oh my gosh. I think this is like the response to our query for people to

0:38.0

submit timestamps with unusual jobs. Well, Ray von, you certainly have an unusual job. Certainly.

0:44.9

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm a Smokhalla, I cover the White House.

0:49.3

And I'm Mara Liason, National Political Correspondent. And today on the show, we're talking about

0:54.2

the politics of immigration. So let's bring in our colleague Joel Rose. He covers immigration for NPR.

0:59.9

Welcome back to the show, Joel. Hey, I'm glad to be here. Republican politicians like Florida

1:04.4

governor Ron DeSantis and Texas governor Greg Abbott have been decrying what they are calling

1:09.6

an immigration crisis at the southern border. And the way they've responded is by literally

1:14.7

transporting migrants, putting them on planes and buses to democratic controlled cities and states

1:19.8

like Washington DC. And then most recently Martha's Vineyard and Massachusetts. Here's the Florida

1:24.9

governor's justification. The minute, even a small fraction of what those border towns deal with

1:31.6

every day is brought to their front door, they all of a sudden go berserk. And they're so upset

1:37.2

that this is happening. And it just shows you, you know, their virtue signaling is a fraud. Okay.

1:43.6

Joel, I want to start with you. Can you explain to us who the people being shipped around the

1:48.9

country are who who are the folks coming to the US? And what are they being told? Sure. We've seen

1:54.8

a pretty dramatic shift this year, a growing number of migrants coming from farther away in the

1:59.4

hemisphere places like Venezuela and Cuba and Nicaragua. And that is significant because those

2:05.4

migrants generally cannot be quickly expelled from the US under the pandemic border restrictions

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