Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy's Editor-in-Chief.

This is FP Live.

So it has not been the best period for the transatlantic relationship, but that doesn't mean it's over.

If there is a way to navigate the turbulence of the second Trump administration,

my guest seems to have found it. Coming up, Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis.

That's in a minute, but first, one thing, nukes. I'm taping this on Thursday, February

5th, and today is the day that new start,

the last nuclear arms control treaty between Russia and the United States, expired.

And as I speak, there are some reports of a last-minute deal to agree to observe the deal's

terms for six more months.

Maybe it'll happen, maybe not.

But the larger points remain.

How did we get to this point?

And what does it mean that we did?

Now, Washington and Moscow control around 85% of the world's nuclear warheads.

Without new start, both sides would have no limits on how

they manage their arsenals. To be fair, other countries like China have been dramatically increasing

their arsenals while the U.S. and Russia were cutting theirs. But China was starting from a very

low base. Now, it seems that Beijing is looking to one-day rival Moscow and Washington,

which means we could be back in a new race to doomsday.

New start was not perfect.

It needed renegotiation.

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