One of Their Own
Paper Ghosts: The Ozarks
iHeartPodcasts
4.3 • 6K Ratings
🗓️ 15 March 2023
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
A bombshell revelation upends long held speculation about Tammy’s killer, as the most promising suspect yet is revealed. Phelps discusses everything he’s learned about Tammy’s case thus far, and explains why an arrest could be imminent. Plus, Tammy’s friends and loved ones reflect on the significance of 30 years after her murder, and share what they think she’d be doing today.
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| 0:00.0 | It was a Hollywood movie come true and I was the star. |
| 0:05.0 | That's Damon Launer. In 2013, he founded what became known as the most elite sex club in the world. |
| 0:11.0 | Sanktum. Join me, Carly Chortino, as we explore how this luxury sex empire was built, |
| 0:18.0 | and how it ultimately turned Damon's life upside down. |
| 0:22.0 | Listen to Sanktum on Mass, on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. |
| 0:30.0 | Paper Ghosts is a production of iHeartRadio. |
| 0:37.0 | Previously on Paper Ghosts, so they come to you and you give them the okay to consume that DNA. |
| 0:44.0 | I first call Joanne and we have this discussion about this as our one shot. |
| 0:49.0 | You know, we may not get it again if we agree to do this. |
| 0:53.0 | She was in complete agreement and said we've got to do what we've got to do. |
| 0:56.0 | In the process of our analysis of the physical evidence using more modern DNA tests, |
| 1:03.0 | the shoelaces were of tremendous interest to us. |
| 1:06.0 | A couple of local FBI agents came to my house and took a DNA swab for me. |
| 1:12.0 | They apparently found out DNA that they can use. |
| 1:16.0 | Obviously they have something that they're processing. |
| 1:20.0 | My name is M. William Phelps. I'm an investigative journalist and author of more than 42 crime books. |
| 1:27.0 | This is season three of Paper Ghosts in Plane Site. |
| 1:38.0 | Over the course of my investigation into Tammy Zawiki's murder, I kept coming back to one word. |
| 1:46.0 | Trust. |
| 1:50.0 | From the beginning, everything in Tammy's case, the crime scene on I-80, the time of day, |
| 1:57.0 | a highway full of witnesses, just about everything, pointed to one conclusion. |
| 2:04.0 | Tammy trusted her killer enough to willingly accept the ride. |
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